just so i can be clear as much as a moron can, it is not the criticism that i take issue with but the name calling that i see as unneccesary and immature. a debate but its very nature will have some criticism but it got to be so un worth it when you took it to the playground.

that would explain the username. hmmm...

I know a mom of 13 children (no twins) and she's the most calm, kind and sweet mother I know! :twocents: :footinmouth:

Dental mom.

"Originally posted by undertone:
I usually am civil, but I consciously decided to stoop to your level. Well, I would like to thank you because I clearly proved my point on several levels."

Whatever his point was, Undertone has proven it only to himself. To those of us who belong to the mommd community, he has proven only that he is an irritation and by jumping into our conversation with his insults he has stopped cold our debate. If you are still lurking out there undertone, know that you do not understand the spirit of this group enough to either raise yourself to our level or to prove any points with us.

Dental-Mom: 13 children...WOW! I stand in awe of large families and hope to one day have one of my own. When I suggested to my husband an even dozen, he nearly fainted and now has talked me down to six. Props to your friend.

momcat, 6 children? Are you sure?

Have 2 and then let's talk about large families! :yes:

But, since I'm in USA then you will know how that goes..... :boxedin: My 2 boys fill my heart.

Dental mom.

And going back to the original subject, I don't care if this child has dicipline problems, or what they say now that her mom sold that video for money? ...I don't care. No child should be treated that way :no:

I think that you do need to have kids face up to consequences of their actions, but only AFTER they are able to comprehend that there ARE consequences. A 10 year old can grasp this concept. A 5 year old cannot.

wow 13 kids?!! 6 kids?!! i wanted 4 but now 1 is running me ragged! i think a large family has the potential to be fun though.

regarding the case, i think we are missing so many pieces to the story that it is nto funny. doesn't it seem that way? i am not saying that there is ever a reason to cuff a 5yo but the police and the shcool are saying that they are acting accordingly. are they trying to cover up something or what? something makes em think that they were fed up w/ this family and mom- the little girl has been a terror and the camera wasn't accidentally running. they planned it and covered themselves somehow. but then they set them selves up for all kinds of suits so like i said i thin kthere is more to the story on all sides.

Very true that we don't have all the datails. I agree that a 10 yr old understands....but a 5 yr old is not going to understand this much.

The whole thing is sad. The most important person here is that child.

I just came back from helping in my son's K class. I looked at all those kids.....they can not understand this much....no way! At this age just calling the parents is more than enough.....

Dental mom :boggled:

Oh, and what about that run away bride? Poor woman!

Almost 9 yrs ago at age 21, I too like most brides was VERY stressed out. But I did blow once a week, and made my wishes clear :boggled: