Has anyone else seen this story from Tampa?

http://www.nbc10.com/news/4409467/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=news

I saw the tape of the child being unruly (and in desperate ned of a spanking ). She was tearing things down from the wall, and hitting the teacher,ect.ect.

I think the school went too far calling the police on a 5 year old in the first place. However, I wasn't suprised the school called the police on this kid just as I'm sure she is not the first kid to act out like this. BUT, folks need to understand the the "rules" of law are NOT equally and fairly applied to everyone. Therefore, it's best to just avoid these types of situations in the first place. This goes back to parenting, IMHO.

wow! I dont' know i dont' always want to blame the parents but MOST of the time that's the problem. however why couldnt' the mom get there? maybe a good reason? maybe she was delayed? anyway no excuses but it is isn't ALWAYS the parents fault in these cases. having worked in child psych last summer parents with children with behavioral problems see to get called constantly from the schools so the mom may have also wanted to see what happend if the school handled it. not saying that's right but sometimes these parents have to work part time only for that reason. especially if the kids have mental health issues.
also, similar situations happen almost every day in schools across the nation. nobdoy else has had to control a 5yo with handcuffs! i hope that doesn't scar the child for life!
also what the child was doing from what i saw didn't look that out of the ordinary fro a tantrum i am nto sure why she coudlnt' be controlled iwthout handcuffs?
ther eis so much info missing that i can't even beging to analyze the situation but handcuffs on a 5yo is plain wrong unless she was of grave danger to the people around her which didnt' seem to be the case. but then back in the day that used to be handled with the "board of education". no need for police.

I saw the "to spank or not to spank" debate...and intentionally avoided it. I'm tired of people passing judgement on other people. Most parents are doing the best they can, and are doing what they feel is in the best interest of their children. Why can't both be "right" depending on the child, the parent, and the circumstances?

Anyway, I agree with Path...this child needs a spanking. I even believe that those swats with the paddle that were dished out by the prinicpal when I was in elementary...were in order. It takes a village...

If this child cannot be controlled (but by police) at 5 years old...this family is in a world of trouble come 10 years.

Instead of us suggesting spanking=abuse, perhaps we should support parents being parents. If parents are allowed to parent...our children would be better citizens.

I agree and sorry that i didn't adequately convey this in my post.
but then too with the spanking. i believe in spanking and maybe that is what the child needs. but what if it's something else? like an untreated mental health or emotional problem. so in effect it's still passing judgment. the child actually might be adequately discplined but going through something that we and the media know nothing about. so really it is all comments and opinions rather than judgment any way.

This is actually a good point. And you would think that the teachers at the school, with employed child counselors, and who have probably dealt with children with untreated mental illness, would know a situation like this when they see it.

But I think we have to keep in mind the circumstances presented here. From what I gathered when the Mother's lawyer was interviewed on TV today, this child is from a poor, black, single parent home and these 3 factors when combined probably taint the viewpoints of the school administrators and police in how they should handle a situation like this. As far as I'm concerned, this child didn't have a "chance" from the first time she was reported to vice-principle of the school.

So all in all, this is a very difficult situation to call because it seems everyone involved from the parents to the school officials and police, have handled this situation and the circumstances that led to it very, very, poorly.

I agree with sargasso here...how can we even really know all of the details about this situation?
Is the child currently a victim of emotional, physical or sexual abuse...this type of acting out...and even violent behavior would not be atypical. Are there family problems that could be addressed by social workers/psychologists or should we just...spank the mom and the kid and be done with it? Has this child been fully evaluated for any behavioral or developmental issues before we decide to cuff her?

You would think...We had a child move here two years ago who had some emotional problems. His mom had custody of him but the dad simply never returned him after a weekend visitation. She had no money to hire an attorney and had to go through the state system to get the child back. Don't ask me why the police couldn't intervene. I have no idea. At the end of the day, the child was returned to his mother...he was found in a teeny apartment that was filthy. He was underweight and had not been sent to school..and also had physical evidence of physical abuse at the time he was removed.

So..he started 1st grade here and because the mom was poor, the social workers were like...sharks. They just wouldn't leave this poor mother alone. They insisted that the child's problems were purely a result of ADHD and demanded proof that he was getting ritalin before allowing her access to his report cards etc. They made her life miserable. She found a doc willing to prescribe and started him on it. He lost more weight, was agitated, cried a lot and couldn't sleep. So...she took him off the meds and told the school nurse he was getting an extended capsule that he only had to take in the mornings.

6 weeks later, she had another meeting with the psychologist, social worker, teacher and administrators...they all raved about the improvement in the child since he switched to the extended release formula. The truth...he had taken nothing and was in therapy to deal with what had happened.

PS...did anyone watch the film clip? The girl had acted out and the school then called the mom to pick her child up. When the mom couldn't come, the school decided to call the police. If I was the mom, I would sue the bajeezus out of the school district. If she had been a rich, white, sahm and had been able to come and pick up her daughter, no arrest would have been made.

path- and from the kid i saw in child psych last summer and the reports from the parents- it DOES happen regularly. i am not sure why they had to call the police in this situation.

Don't even get me started on tthe public school system! I have to CONSTANTLY keep my foot up EVERYONE's A$$ at my childs school to make sure my child gets the education she deserves. Unfortunately, many parents can't take the time off from work to be there and this is such a shame! As a former public school teacher, I am so embarrassed about this while situation!