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#64624 - 09/26/05 10:00 PM Britney Spear's pregnancy
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This is kind of silly, but does anyone want to speculate about why Britney Spears had a c-section, and if it was elective or necessary? :scratchchin:

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#64625 - 09/27/05 04:08 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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Saw an article that said it was elective 'cause she "couldn't deal with pain". Riiiight....a C-section is utterly pain free. :rolleyes:

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#64626 - 09/27/05 05:36 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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I suspect it was something else. An epidural with natural labor is about a pain free as you can get. C-section no pain???? :banghead: Stupid. And the doctor who performed it if that was the reason is stupid too. Having had 2 C-sections my self - I still have scar pain 6 years later. :weeping:
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#64627 - 09/27/05 06:04 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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probablly removed any baby fat while he was at it. She had to fit back into the stage clothes.

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#64628 - 09/27/05 08:33 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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Hey, just wondering, is the C section mostly painful while its being performed? or when its healing?

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#64629 - 09/27/05 08:57 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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C- Section is Major abdominal surgery. They cut through 7 layers of tissue to get to the baby. It's major surgery and while you are awake - there is no pain due to anesthesia. If they did it without, you would probably die from the hearth strain. It's the healing after and trying to get up and move with all your abd muscles cut. It's no easy task and severely painful.
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#64630 - 09/27/05 09:26 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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For some women...

...a c-section is preferrable.

I had an elective c-section, and for me it was a very good choice.
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#64631 - 09/27/05 10:57 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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My second C-section was elective too, I had no choice due to small pelvis. Doesn't make it any less painful.
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#64632 - 09/27/05 12:46 PM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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I've had a c-section, and two v-bacs (vaginal birth after ceasarean). Recovery from the c-section was no fun, but luckily it was my first baby, and I didn't have a toddler jumping on me or wanting me to pick him/her up. But I will admit that the perineal trauma of the v-bacs made for a more intensely uncomfortable recovery from those deliveries. I had stitches both times, and found that healing to be very very uncomfortable.

Just my experience... tired

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#64633 - 09/27/05 01:55 PM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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My second C-section was elective too, I had no choice due to small pelvis. Doesn't make it any less painful.
So, it wasn't quite elective.

There are pros and cons to both vag birth and c-section. For some women, the risks of one outweigh the risks of the other. You can have your pain up front...or during recovery (or for some, both). Childbirth usually involves some pain...no matter which method you choose.

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- I still have scar pain 6 years later.
There are many women who suffer from a multitude of long-term problems after having a vaginal delivery as well.

Isn't it great that some women (along with their doctors) can choose the best option for them?
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#64634 - 09/27/05 09:55 PM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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Are you ladies saying that if you want a C section, the Dr will do it? :boggled:

I thought that here in US, Dr are NOT allowed to do c sections unless medically necesary?

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#64635 - 09/28/05 03:43 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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Depends on the state, depends on the doctor. If you are post-term at all, that could be considered "medically neccessary". Also, like Mya said, it's got to come out one way or the other, and neither is a barrel of laughs.

I think any good doctor would do some probing as to why you thought you wanted/needed a C-section, rather than just having someone walk in demanding a C-section and acquiesing. C-sections are less risky when planned too, so if you think there's a chance you might end up with one anyways, might as well plan on it.

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#64636 - 09/28/05 09:17 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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Once again, this is a silly question,
but if birth is supposed to be like a natural process of human life, why does it seem so painful and complicated? Like if everyone is born in the same way, why do women have to go through so much to give birth? Maybe this is more of a philisophical question than a medical one.. smile

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#64637 - 09/28/05 09:38 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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well, from a religious perspective, pain during birth is a punishment for eating from the tree of life in the garden of eden. This is in genesis, (chapter 2,I think) in hebrew it says "b'etzev taldee bonim" which means you will give birth with pain.

From a non-religious view, who said everything that is natural is pain free?

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#64638 - 09/28/05 10:31 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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I find this frenzy of Brittany Spears disgusting!! :rolleyes: Her "man" leaves a woman he never married, pregnant with his SECOND kid. Buy hey, I guess he was looking at the money. His "Babies Mama" while well off, doesn't have the money Brit has. And what exactly does he do for a living other than mooch?
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#64639 - 09/28/05 11:27 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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Brittany Spears disgusting!! Her "man" leaves a woman he never married, pregnant with his SECOND kid. Buy hey, I guess he was looking at the money. His "Babies Mama" while well off, doesn't have the money Brit has. And what exactly does he do for a living other than mooch?
I agree.
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#64640 - 09/29/05 06:15 PM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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Once again, this is a silly question,
but if birth is supposed to be like a natural process of human life, why does it seem so painful and complicated? Like if everyone is born in the same way, why do women have to go through so much to give birth? Maybe this is more of a philisophical question than a medical one..
From an evolutionary perspective, 2 major factors:
1) As we stood up on 2 feet, the pelvis became narrower and tilted differently, making it less suitable for childbirth.
2) As the brain got bigger, infants' heads got bigger and therefore harder to get out.

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#64641 - 09/30/05 04:59 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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Personally I think birth is a normal process...most of the time. It would be nice to treat most births as normal events and monitor for the complications that arise and treat the potential complicated births as medical conditions.

Yes, our heads have grown larger and our pelvises need to keep things in place since we walk upright and, yes, our babies are born relatively prematurely *but* it is *still* a normal biological process...most of the time.

So I would say, "yes" to both sides of the fence so to speak when they are correct.

Britney Spears doesn't deserve the attention she is getting. I wouldn't use her as an arguement for or against C-sections or anything else for that matter. She is a media whore and I couldn't care less about her.

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#64642 - 09/30/05 08:45 AM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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My last birth was pain free with an epidural that began at 2cm dilation with pitocin. I'm done with having kids, but if I had the choice I would do it the exact same way as my last. I had stitches too with all of them, I didn't think this aspect was that awful bad.

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#64643 - 10/01/05 02:29 PM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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I can't complain about my births, either. I wish every woman could have a similar experience.

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#64644 - 10/06/05 07:57 PM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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I'm still recovering from my csec 11 weeks ago, I loved the percocet, I was up and about before the "24 hour bed rest period" driving my nurses crazy and delirious on duramorph tired :goodvibes:

What was tough was the disappointment after laboring for 38 hours, then pushing for 3.5 hours (my ob said she would've let me push to 6 hours if I didn't get chorio)They never tell you how traumatizing it is to go through the whole thing, thinking it will be one way and it ending up another!

Can you believe through this whole thing my plumpchkn didn't have one decel? They ultimately took her to prevent infection.

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#64645 - 10/16/05 04:29 PM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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K-Fed=scum. He can have two babies with one woman and not marry her,but Britney comes along and buys him a Ferrari and now she's mother of the year? Give me a break!
What makes her think that he won't leave her as easily?And now he working on a "rap album" so she can be stay at home mommy?! :rolleyes: He doesn't seem very talented.And a c-section with no pain? Nubain and an epidural worked wonders for me :yes: Media whore is right!Thumbs up to Justin Timberlake for getting outta that mess!

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#64646 - 10/16/05 11:18 PM Re: Britney Spear's pregnancy
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I believe that our heads are STILL getting bigger! As human beings take on more and more complex tasks and work exclusively with their brains as opposed to their hands, their heads HAVE to get bigger. The recent discovery of Haplogroup - D (variants of the Microcephalin and ASPM) is more than sufficient proof that our brains are still evolving. I believe that the little organ in the top storey is just getting more and more complex, beating even the most hard-wired of super computers.

A while ago, I came across an article in which an evolutionary biologist predicted that there will be major structural changes to the human body, if the species should survive for the next 2 or 3 million years! He said that our descendents would probably be shaped like a brocolli bunch - with thin, stalky bodies and a very large head!

YIKES! I'm sooooooooooooo glad that I won't be giving birth 2 million years from today!

But who knows? Maybe our smart, large brained descendents would have figured out a way to have a baby develop OUTSIDE a woman's body in an artificial uterus! My Genetics Prof often jokes that the only thing men are useful for these days are their sperm. That THEORITICALLY with cloning, even that purpose has been taken away from them. So maybe we can eliminate the need for the men in the next 200 years?

Just a thought. A pretty pleasant thought right after a BIG squabble with a moronic husband! laugh laugh laugh

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Originally posted by Empi:
Personally I think birth is a normal process...most of the time. It would be nice to treat most births as normal events and monitor for the complications that arise and treat the potential complicated births as medical conditions.

Yes, our heads have grown larger and our pelvises need to keep things in place since we walk upright and, yes, our babies are born relatively prematurely *but* it is *still* a normal biological process...most of the time.

So I would say, "yes" to both sides of the fence so to speak when they are correct.

Britney Spears doesn't deserve the attention she is getting. I wouldn't use her as an arguement for or against C-sections or anything else for that matter. She is a media whore and I couldn't care less about her.

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