BTW, anyone who is bemoaning the fact that Europeans stole this country from the Native Americans, keep in mind that the Native Americans are getting their payback in their casinos. Many tribes are becoming wealthy off the rest of Americans, and I've always said, More power to them (since I don't gamble, I'm happy for those of my fellow Americans who do gamble to do their part to pay the Native Americans back.) Of course, in some instances, the tribal elders are being just as corrupt about what happens to all that money as your average corporate raider.

If this country was being ruled by one man, we would have Federal liability reform, but we don't.

Are you for real?

How do you "replace" the millions upon millions of lives that were lost when their country was invaded and they were exposed to diseases like small pox and syphillis? How do you replace the lost of culture? Alcoholism was the worst "gift" Europeans "gave" the Native Americans!

God, help us all! It's just a matter of time before history repeats itself in the form of mass slavery or another large scale holocast. Ignorance of the past is the perfect recipe fo repeating it the only question is who will be the aggresors this time?

I'm going to have to go pray after that one, LITERALLY!

There are already genocides perpetually happening. I have a good book on it, I will have to find it to tell you what it's called exactly. Samantha Powers, maybe?

And let's face it, people need to take responsibility sometimes and stop blaming it for their ancestors or how their ancestors were treated. I'm mostly Irish/Scottish and I am not an alcoholic who blames the English for the horrors inflicted upon my ancestors. And it really does compare a great deal if you read a lot about the history of Britain. Though surely not maybe in the size comparison of the mass chaos that ensued, but Ireland has been sh!t on for centuries by others. Irish slaves, legal rape of Irish and Scottish women, being called the n word of Europe, etc.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/secret/famous/ssecretum1.html

This is really interesting. Path, you might like this one.

No doubt, you're right peopl do need to take responsibility. But it's hellva LOT easier to "pull yourself up by your boot straps" when you have "boots". the reason so many of us are educated is because the generation BEFORE us was educated. How can you "pass on" something thatyou don't have? Unfortunately, what some people do end up passing on may or may not be of benefit either to themselves or society.

My grandma has a 3rd grade education which is substantial for my family. My mom somehow managed to graduate high school. My cousin was the first to go to college (he was a literal juvenile delinquent who never went to high school but spent most of his teens in juvie, decided to do something with himself and was (transferred to northeastern or something) awarded the highest math award possible at his university, and accepted into MIT for his PhD in math-true fairy tale stuff).

And now I believe that I am the second to go to college. I don't have someone "before me" who was educated to stand on. Neither do several of my friends. But I can say that it does bother me when I see all of these little rich snobs in my classes, jealousy, anger that most of them have never worked for something a day in their lives... Call it what you may.

Didn't say it made up for millions of lives (though, do you really think it was millions upon millions? The native American population didn't top 1 million until somewhere in the 1970's, and through the 19th century represented 0.1% of the total population of the US.) I just find it fitting and just (and somewhat amusing) that Native Americans are taking some Americans for every cent, and they are handing it over willingly. As I said, more power to them. We stole their country and they are getting some back.

And BTW, I am not blaming Africans for unleashing AIDS and Ebola on the world, so let's not start blaming Europeans for smallpox and syphilis, though according to the following, it's quite likely that Native Americans sent syphilis back to Europe with Columbus, not the other way around. Check it out:
http://www.archaeology.org/9701/newsbriefs/syphilis.html

As a former AIDS COUNSELOR, I can tell you with certainty that it was a gay WHITE dude that FIRST brought AIDS to the USA. He was in Africa ( as a Airline Steward)screwing around, pun intended. So sure, you could "blame Africans" for it but ultimately you'll have to look at someone who looks a lot like YOUR HUSBAND to understand why the disease is here. Besides, I haven't seen bands of Africans running around here raping folks in America to spread either AIDS or Ebola. :rolleyes:

But thanks for the heads up. It's always nice to get sense of how uninformed our doctors are and how desperately more doctors of color are needed to quell the ignorance. And THAT, brings us back to why having Mexican immgrants in this country, and having them matriculate into med school, would be good for the Country.

Quell the ignorance!!! :yes:

From AVERT.org, a UK AIDS charity. See www.avert.org/origins for references.

Much was made in the early years of the epidemic of a so-called 'Patient Zero' who was the basis of a complex "transmission scenario" compiled by Dr. William Darrow and colleagues at the Centre for Disease Control in the US. This epidemiological study showed how 'Patient O' (mistakenly identified in the press as 'Patient Zero') had given HIV to multiple partners, who then in turn transmitted it to others and rapidly spread the virus to locations all over the world. A journalist, Randy Shilts, subsequently wrote an article based on Darrow's findings, which named Patient Zero as a gay Canadian flight attendant called Gaetan Dugas. For several years, Dugas was vilified as a 'mass spreader' of HIV and the original source of the HIV epidemic among gay men. However, four years after the publication of Shilts' article, Dr. Darrow repudiated his study, admitting its methods were flawed and that Shilts' had misrepresented its conclusions.

While Gaetan Dugas was a real person who did eventually die of AIDS, the Patient Zero story was not much more than myth and scaremongering. HIV in the US was to a large degree initially spread by gay men, but this occurred on a huge scale over many years, probably a long time before Dugas even began to travel.

Apparently, it was ignorance that started the "Patient zero" myth, and ignorance propogates it.

I have nothing against Mexican immigrants, or their attending medical school, but like all immigrants, I would prefer they be here legally, as many immigrants in our schools are.