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#83318 - 01/01/12 05:41 PM Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask
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Registered: 03/07/11
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Hi,
I've been accepted into a medical school and am very interested in family practice (with OB) if I decide to go. I couldn't decide if this was the best career route for me, so I deferred for a year and have applied to some NP programs this year as well. In making my decision and weighing all the pros and cons of each program and profession, ONE factor is the time/money investment vs. earning potential. I am wondering if any family practice docs out there would share their salary range? I have done some internet research, but the ranges are pretty broad (130-200k posted as "averages"), so I thought hearing the figures from women in practice would help me get a better idea. I would eventually like to have my own practice, so and I'm also not sure how that effects income.

Thanks!

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#83319 - 01/02/12 04:25 AM Re: Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask [Re: indecisive]
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I am still a med student but what I noticed is your pay will depend on your contract. You can be salaried or production-mode. Salaried means you don't get the big bucks but have more control over your patients and time. Production = having to meet a target number of patients with a big bonus as incentive as well as a bigger salary. I know someone who makes 260K this way in a small rural area.

I personally wanted to be a doctor, regardless of pay. Becoming an NP offers you similar lifestyle as a family doc, without the demands of medical school. So, that is not a bad option IMHO. It makes a lot of sense why someone would just decide to be an NP. Less pressure on the individual as well as family.

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#83320 - 01/02/12 05:57 AM Re: Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask [Re: niash]
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Originally Posted By: niash
I personally wanted to be a doctor, regardless of pay. Becoming an NP offers you similar lifestyle as a family doc, without the demands of medical school. So, that is not a bad option IMHO. It makes a lot of sense why someone would just decide to be an NP. Less pressure on the individual as well as family.


My understanding is that the NP will eventually disappear to become DNP only (a similar thing happened in Pharmacy). With that in mind and by the time you add the additional years of training, you may as well have become an MD instead. Yes, I get that the training model/length of time is vastly different, which is why I never quite understand deciding between the 2 degree programs.

As for pay, with all the uncertainty surrounding the future practice of medicine, I feel that you should only do it if you feel there's nothing else in the world that satisfy you professionally. Sure, there are plenty of other easier routes to a career in the medical field, but will they be satisfying to you in the long run?
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#83321 - 01/02/12 02:04 PM Re: Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask [Re: Apop201X]
indecisive Offline
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Thanks, niash. What other pay ranges have you found? 260k sounds like a lot for family practice. Is it true that rural family practice docs usually make more, and if so, why?

Just to clarify, I'm not making this decision based solely on money, its just one factor. Becoming an NP wouldn't be too much of a short cut of time and money spent in school, so its appropriate to figure out the "return on investment." After all, if it will take 3 years for an NP degree and 4 for med school (not including residency, course), but the salary in medicine 2x that of NP, it seems like a poor financial decision not to go to the program i've been accepted to, however I know its not just a financial decision in the end.

Any other family practice doctors out there willing to weigh in?

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#83359 - 01/06/12 03:52 PM Re: Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask [Re: indecisive]
indecisive Offline
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Well, it looks like I'm not getting the response I hoped for here. I will try another angle - today I spoke with CNM in a rural area similar to where I want to work. She said she makes easily $100,000 less per year than the family practice physicians who also do OB at her small optional. Does that sound like a typical earning gap between doctors and nurse practitioners?

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#83394 - 01/10/12 02:35 PM Re: Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask [Re: indecisive]
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FP makes about 190K or so there is NO way average pay is over 200K for FP regardless of OB or not unless you work over 100 hrs/week

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#84674 - 04/15/12 06:49 PM Re: Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask [Re: efex101]
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Ok, ladies. Rural family practice is where it's at. Doing locums this year I made well over 200K and did about 4-5 months of vacation total.

I just signed a contract (not in Oregon) that is base pay of 400+K + bonus at a rural critical care access hospital (10 beds) where I am the only provider and cover ER, IP, can clinic during the week. I do not do OB. The outlying clinics are 300K base M-F. 2weeks on /2 weeks off. I can live anywhere.

The average pay is 180K but the big jobs are out there but you have to be willing to locate to those places.



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#84676 - 04/15/12 07:53 PM Re: Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask [Re: Cabinbuilder]
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locums always pays more, rural pays well but you are IT good luck

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#84677 - 04/15/12 08:17 PM Re: Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask [Re: efex101]
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Speaking of locums, everytime I read an article in this journal, I get all tingly inside:

http://www.todayshospitalist.comm/index.php?b=articles_read&cnt=761


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#84686 - 04/16/12 10:47 AM Re: Family Practice: the question no one wants to ask [Re: efex101]
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Originally Posted By: efex101
locums always pays more, rural pays well but you are IT good luck


Yes, my kind of job. That's why I took it. I'm so sick of begging lazy hospitalists to admit a patient for me and am told to direct them to the ER. Makes me crazy. I don't like anyone touching my people when I don't have hospital privileges but I have the skills to take care of it but my hands are tied on certain locums gig. I would rather just do it all myself.
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