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11 years 2 weeks ago #68287 by twinmom
Glad to hear from you, Anna. So, with your understanding of Chicago politics, do you think that getting Obama's Senate replacement is going to be a mess? It kind of sounds like that from where I sit. (Not debating at all, just thinking that there are going to be a whole lot of different people in Congress than the ones people elected... Obama, Biden (who stood for re-election this year), and likely Emmanuel will all be gone.)

Also, I was really impressed with McCain's concession speech, and wish that he'd run the rest of the campaign that way. I think with a different VP pick and a different tone, the results could have been pretty different. I think he gambled poorly on Palin: when you lose someone because they stay home from the polls (or vote third party), you only lose one vote, but when you lose someone and they vote for your opponent, you essentially lose two, which is kind of what happened with a lot of moderates this time around.

Anyway, yeah. Honestly, I'm most happy that the White House will be occupied by someone who's proud to be intelligent. (Not saying the most recent two former occupants weren't smart, but they both pretended they weren't and that's something that rubs me exactly the wrong way.) That he's broken racial barriers is just icing on the cake.

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11 years 2 weeks ago #68288 by Doc201X

Originally posted by twinmom:
Also, I was really impressed with McCain's concession speech, and wish that he'd run the rest of the campaign that way.

I was impressed too and felt it was one of the best concession speech's I'd have ever seen.

I too wish McCain had "been himself" during the campaign, though I still think it would have been alomost impossible for him to overcome being indirectly linked to what's going on in the country today.

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11 years 2 weeks ago #68289 by liball
I think it is SAD more has been said here about the lucky 5% of the US who make >$250K who will pay more taxes than ending the 2 wars or at least a major cut in war spending President Obama has a goal.
I work my butt off & don't make anywhere near 250K as a full time doc by the way & have plenty to live the lifestyle that meets my family's needs. I went into medicine to help people not for the money & I still feel that way 8 yrs post residency and love my profession.
I would gladly pay a more $$ get my dear friends out of the wars now and bring back the ones who are dead in the ground. It seems people are unconcerned about the wars unless personally involved. VERY SAD !!
Just my 2 cents- nothing personal...

Dr. Mommy to Carissa, Lauren & James

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11 years 2 weeks ago #68290 by aurora

Originally posted by mai tai:

Originally posted by CosmoC:
I am actually shocked about the reaction to this election. I have worked very, very hard to put myself through college, medical school and residency and am now working hard in practice. I find it demeaning and humiliating to be punished for being successful. I agree that I should pay taxes but already feel taxed to death. Why can't the government spend our tax dollars more wisely instead of taking even more away from people who have worked very hard to be where they are in life.

nobody likes to pay taxes . obama knows this. cosmoc, if you are fortunate enough to make $250,000 per year, that puts you in the top 5% of wage earners this country. 95% of americans are not as well off as you. the thought is that you are well off enough to be able to pay more in taxes. as obama said in the clip, government services do not come for free. we have a huge deficit. we continue to spend billions a month in iraq. these debts need to be paid down, and taxes are the source of revenue. obama saw that the middle class is hurting and has said he wants to decrease taxes for the middle class. cynically, he wouldn't have been able to win the election if he had said he wanted to raise taxes across the board. in order to offset the loss of revenue from cutting middle class taxes, he has to raise taxes on the wealthy. sure, that sucks to part with more of your hard-earned cash. however, from driving through one of the nicer neighborhoods in my city (talking million dollar homes), the vast majority of lawns have obama/biden signs. probably nineteen out of twenty. and these are definitely people making more than $250,000 per year. many people would gladly pay a little more in taxes to have better government that is working toward a better america. [/b]

How many times do we need to demonstrate that higher taxes means LOWER revenue for the government? People take their money elsewhere. Attempting to take more money from the top wage earners and giving "rebates" to people who don't even PAY taxes is insane. How do you expect to pay down any debt if you're handing out welfare checks like candy? We won't be "paying down" anything if we're instituting the billions of dollars in new spending Obama is proposing.

"A goal without a plan is just a wish." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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11 years 2 weeks ago #68291 by aurora

Originally posted by twinmom:
I believe he'll appoint moderate judges with a strong understanding of the law. I believe that we'll see a return to fiscal conservatism that hasn't been seen in a long time.[/QB]

Unless you've been listening to an entirely different man named Barack Obama than I have, I think you're quite mistaken. Moderate judges and fiscal conservatism? With an admitted socialist as president and a Democrat majority in the house? :rotfl: I hope you're right, but until I see ANY evidence of Obama's support of fiscal conservatism and constructionist judicial appointments, I'll assume you were being witty. Twinmom, I'll buy you and your family dinner if you're right. You have my word.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_conservatism

"A goal without a plan is just a wish." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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11 years 2 weeks ago #68292 by Doc201X

Originally posted by aurora:
How do you expect to pay down any debt if you're handing out welfare checks like candy? We won't be "paying down" anything if we're instituting the billions of dollars in new spending Obama is proposing.

So a tax rebate = a welfare check! Help! Someone pass the Prozac!

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